Submarine Yachts as a Business

Building private submarines is an art that is performed mostly by individuals that have a small water beetle like sub in their garage and have put a large amount of personal money and effort invested into that project.

Many personal submarine builders are engineers and enjoy the soldering and hammering developing, testing and rebuilding as part of the fun having a personal submarine. There is nothing wrong about that kind of fun - i had a lot of it when i built my prototype - and i really enjoyed that.

On the other hand i am a Market Development Manager in my second life. So for me a submarine must not only work as a fun machine and a diving unit - it must also work as a business - which basically means it must do or provide something in a way that is better than it has been done before by other solutions.

I believe that the prototype that i developed sets the base for a submarine yacht that can deliver anything a normal yacht delivers - fun, status, living space, independence, range, security, in a new and better way at lower cost than a similar sized surface yacht would do.

For people that have an interest in the business aspect of submarine yachts, - both in building them and operating them - i have several business proposals focused on the business of submarine yachting and living...

As Business Development Manager in South America i am focused on creating business, developing projects and finally - pull it off and make it work. So if you search the right person to bring a project you have in mind to life - i can evaluate, assemble the right team, supervise work, make it happen - at a reasonable cost - compared to other options that focus merely on ultra luxury segments. I am flexible and ready to move anywhere if you have a solid project to suggest. Let me hear your thoughts ... (info@tolimared.com)

If you are an investor and think that some of the ideas and projects lined out on this site can create a tremendous return of investment in a short time line - i agree with this. At the moment we are open to take in financing and technical partners.

 

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Taking the concept to related business fields
The concept of building floating concrete shell hulls as we developed them has a wide range of application in business. Beside the concrete submarine we have explored floating platforms and business models.

We have the following suggestions outlined below:

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

 

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The following concept discussions are currently active at Seasteading.org:

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina

 

Seasteading start up suggestion exotic bubble hotel (link)

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

 

The bubble hotel.

It bases on the fact that there is a booming market for exotic hotel vacations. It ranges from Ice hotels, to tree hotels, and there is even a underwater hotel in use as we speak. Jules Underwater Lodge in Florida.  There has been big intents of underwater mega hotels in dubai and fiji that folded due problems on the finance front. So it seems logical to start with a single room or a underwater cabin-pod on a low scale and take it from there.

Wil

concretesubmarine.com

 

The Captain Nemo float out (link)

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

 

Let me continue to propose the "captain nemo float out" it is basicly building a "better yacht" that can stay in open ocean for long periods of time.

Yachts can not stay in open ocean for long periods of time as the wave action makes staying there quite uncomfortable.

Yachts are also built from materials that impose "light building" as principal design feature. This goes bad with basic seasteading needs like big tank volumes and store of big amounts of goods like food, spare parts, tools, fuel, water and similar.

In general a yacht is built for living in a marina and make short trips of no more than a few days crossing open water in favorable weather conditions.

We propose (and already tested) a vehicle that is the technical equivlent of a whale. A very heavy almost completly submerged body wandering worldwide at a speed of 7 knots with incredible low energy needs, capeable to live on resouces and opportunities that come up seasonally at thousands of miles distance.

This vehicle would be about "apartment size" hold a adequate living space for a single family be equally comfortable in harbor or at open sea, avoiding wave movements by cruising most of the time in snorkel mode. It would provide "leave coffee cup on the table comfort" even in the worst imaginable sea conditions.

It would be the "workhorse" of a new generation of ocean explorers and settlers who engage in activities like open water pod fishfarming, tuna rearing, wreck salvage, scuba tourism, mineral explotation, scientific data collection, tourism and similar.

This workhorse would be almost completly independent of  infrastructure.

    

It would allow to have a lifestyle that is somewhere halfway between a yachtie, the moken, and captain nemo. It would allow to paricipate in existing yachting, use existing harbor and boating infrastructure when available. But on the long run it would work best as mobile  complement of oceanic cities as proposed by seasteading.

Wil

concretesubmarine.com

 

The floating real estate deal

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

One of the best ways  to get started, is to cook it down to a simple real estate deal. You produce 1 squaremeter of useable space at a cost of USD 166 and you can sell that space at a price of at least 2000 USD.

Any real estate agent can understand that business, any investor and any bank can understand it. It looks feasible and desireable business in any business plan.

This is why we should not go with "complicated turnkey concepts" but simply try to establish a fabrication site for "floating real estate squaremeters". Similar to our pilot project in the bay of cartagena you see below. The idea is you just fabricate floating space squaremeters for a segmented float lot of unlimited size and shape that can keep growing on a dayly base.

   

Creating oceanfront real estate by building sandbanks is a fairly common and well understood business that is going off on large scale in Dubai and other locations. It is a central paradigm of the real estate business that space can not be created but is limited - especially oceanfront space.

Concrete float solutions expand the sellable real estate to the water - this should be a desireable business field for investors that normally have no affinity to "boating" of any kind.

So to start with i would just sistematicly mass produce floating "empty building lots on the water" and offer them for sale. This is a simple deal, with a never ending pool of possible customers, easy handle for established real estate businesses.

 

The bay of cartagena for example is a hurricane free water space that is completly open for that kind of developments. A wide and empty protected waterspace surrounded by skyscrappers (some built by donald trump) - ready to do business.

My current development budget for floating installations in cartagena is limited to USD 5000/month. As you have seen on the pictures i can only crank out a few experimental squaremeters of floating real estate in small scale pilot projects in this finance frame.

But even so i already got requests for float out all kind of touristic and industrial installations. If i had a couple of floating platforms ready for sale at this moment i could sell them all...

It is of essence for the "guts understanding of the business" that buyers can step on their "empty building lot" and understand that this is not a kind of "boat" - this is solid real estate ground - ocean view.

 

Wil

concretesubmarine.com

 

Plate floating Element - see more -

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

Floating concrete structures in plate shape of a fairly big diameter (about 70m ) have been performed already. It is quite obvious that the structure when done in industrial size can be built with traditional methods of concrete casting. The key question how much freeboard you need for a structure that features no deck is pretty much answered by container ships that don't feature decks either. (Around 15m).

       

What we tested in our R&D site in cartagena is how small could you actually go for building a plate float. The answer is in the first picture that features a plate made of special fiber concrete.  A family house sized plate (picture 2) is in the range of possibilities but must feature a deck as a 15m freeboard is not achieveable for small structures. The plate is a great way to build city sized low wind profile structures that have low requirement for locomotion and station keeping. In therory a whole country on a plate seastead does already exist - the netherlands - most of the terrain is actually under the waterline protected by dikes that avoid a "filling of the plate depression"... floating cities and countries based on the floating plate priciple are not so "utopic" after all.

Wil

concretesubmarine.com

 

Seasteader starter kit suggestion catamaran float element -see more-

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

The base element : catamaran concrete float - a chambered concrete float element built from concrete that replaces the (fast rotting) bambus bundle in the asian floating house concept. The catamaran floating element is a maintenance free base with a 200 year service life you can build a house on that lasts, and maintains a high grade of mobility.  You can use it for a floating village development or for a mobile platform capeable of oceanic travel. Cost universe 331 Euro/ cubic meter of displacement.

 

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Give it to the moken people - they will seastead - give it to the polinesian they will settle the pacific.

Wil

concretesubmarine.com

 

current turbine (link)

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

Current turbine. In a similar way as offshore wind farms are becoming important energy production assets, submerged current turbines have been tested and installed successfully. Current turbines based on cocrete hulls like the one in the picture below can be an elegant solution. It would merey be changing the propeller blades to a much bigger version and change the engine with a generator. Access to the turbine for generator maintenance could be done by a tubular structure from the surface.

The installation could be made almost entirely submerged for little impact on ship traffic and no disturbance by weather and waves. The concrete hull allows a maintenance free service life of the turbine body of several decades - you can not achive that in steel - putting the whole turbine into a drydock for gritblasting is extremly expensive. This turbine can be towed to the anchor location like a submarine and get the turbine blades installed by divers.

Wil

concretesubmarine.com

 

Oceanic Port Design - do not narrow - link -

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

Business at sea can only work when a platform can function in a wide array of different business fields very much like a oceanic port city.

A oceanic port has to deal by definition with almost anything that floats , comes along, for doing trade, business, tourism, etc... from a cruiseship to a sailing yacht.

If you put a "my technology only" sign on your development you cut your lifeline from the very beginning - this is why it will not happen "special design" but " wild multiple design". Narrowing design to a single design approach is not only useless it is DANGEROUS . Picking a design or a range of designs is not corresponding to a autocratic designer - it must be driven by selection and market forces.

        

Connectors between ships and docks are already invented and in use. The standardisation as far as necessary was introduced by the container. The platform would just function as a floating dock or load terminal as usual.

Nothing is deadlier for a floating platform than cut off the multicultural float togehter that is implemented by existing harbors and replace it with monolithic module ideas.

Unfortunatly the design discussion has always drifted that way - so let me postulate NON DESIGN as the fundamental design. Just put concrete floats out there, mix land and sea based business develop the core technology make real estate deals.

Wil

concretesubmarine.com

 

breakwater lagoon marina

 

The catamaran float / The plate float out / The real estate squaremeter deal / The Captain Nemo float out / The bubble hotel / The current turbine / Breakwater lagoon marina / Oceanic port city design /

 

Breakwater lagoon marina it taking the normal floating marina walkways and breakwaters to the next step and moves the concept a bit farer out near a existing coastal city to provide a harbor, refuel, bait, tackle, and beer to a existing boating and yachting community.

Floating structures of that nature do already exist. Some of them are situated in the protected waters of a bay, others like the ecofisk storage tank from the picture series above operate in extreme unprotected ambient of 30m design wave height.

 

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